tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477169190731480241.post1608129080813424..comments2023-10-22T13:29:51.766+02:00Comments on The stuffed Yammob: Quad Core HardcoreLanihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06835095269839169484noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477169190731480241.post-43354556777870172322009-05-15T17:06:00.000+02:002009-05-15T17:06:00.000+02:00Yea* Wait! Mastermind is a Pet Class?Yea* Wait! Mastermind is a Pet Class?Lanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06835095269839169484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477169190731480241.post-56672891793536692422009-05-15T16:55:00.000+02:002009-05-15T16:55:00.000+02:00Or the mastermind in COV that tries to make it all...Or the mastermind in COV that tries to make it all the way without summoning his pets.Phedrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06563052105703506187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477169190731480241.post-17361717801709428572009-05-15T16:21:00.000+02:002009-05-15T16:21:00.000+02:00That does remind me about the naked orc.
A WOW pla...That does remind me about the naked orc.<br />A WOW player who's trying to play the game "naked". I.e. without using any armor or other kit. I think he had a club though.Lanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06835095269839169484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477169190731480241.post-49236491486192533782009-05-15T16:06:00.000+02:002009-05-15T16:06:00.000+02:00How about the hardcore individualist?
The kind th...How about the hardcore individualist?<br /><br />The kind that runs around with a level 1 dagger of rat killing, because it looks cool and doesn't care what anyone else thinks. lol<br /><br />I try really hard to be hardcore at not being hardcore. Um, yeah... That's it...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06407666277442332861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477169190731480241.post-41679690355782436862009-05-15T14:54:00.000+02:002009-05-15T14:54:00.000+02:00I also didn't touch on competitiveness (though I d...I also didn't touch on competitiveness (though I did think about it. Please note that I've actually been trying to cut down on the rambling.<br />It's also a characteristic that might or might not be part of the thing. <br /><br />If competitiveness is at all part of being Hardcore, then I'm a Casual Carebear :-)Lanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06835095269839169484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477169190731480241.post-55652834876424149632009-05-15T14:47:00.000+02:002009-05-15T14:47:00.000+02:00I think a defining element to the Explorer Hardcor...I think a defining element to the Explorer Hardcore player is that he has no conflict with another group. He/she is all but alone in not wanting to enforce his/her gaming style upon others.<br />Most Hardcore people want the game to cater to their particular playstyle and screw the Casuals or the people who adher to a different Hardcore style. Same with Casuals who generally want to get all the shiny rewards in the game, even the once that are there to reward more hadcore type play.<br /><br />I purposely left out PVP hardcoreness as that would turn this into a Bartle's archetypes defined as different forms of Hardcore. I could have done a one-liner then since if you pick any of his archetype and make them extreme to the point of charicature you can ofcourse slap the hardcore sobriquet on it, or anything for that matter.<br /><br />Hardcore is a self-imposed measure of time and effort put into gaming, how seriously you take it and yourself / your ability at it. When put to extreems it becomes destructive, when applied in moderation it can be benign. <br /><br />Oh, I recalled a nice phrase that sums up the issue I often have with Old SKool stuff as well as some newer things: You should be fighting the adversaries in the game, not the interface or the mechanics. Those should "not be there".Lanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06835095269839169484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477169190731480241.post-64443879842550253462009-05-15T14:40:00.000+02:002009-05-15T14:40:00.000+02:00I recognize the playertype you point out there. No...I recognize the playertype you point out there. Not sure if it's a hardcore type though. To me it seems to be something else entirely. Someone who's as far removed from the type of player who knows what the R stands for in RPG and in stead is all about the stats maximization. While some of his arguments like not wanting to run more than 5 minutes for a quest might seem to pout him on one or the other side of one of those silly Hardcore vs Casual debates I think it's different. This type of player can be found in the Achiever Hardcore camp and if he has no job in the Time Based Hardcore camp. I do think it's a playertype more predominant in next gen MMO's, hence the opposite of Old Skool?<br /><br />The type of play can also occur automatically, insiduously even. In fact, I've seen you do it in CoX on occasion when you were running down an overly familiar path so to speak. THough not nearly as much so as some of the XP farmers there. <br /><br />There's aslo another type that gets close to these. The (usually) achiever who wants to rush through the progression content to 'beat' the level game as soon as possible as 'the real game' starts at end game level. <br /><br />Just more arguments why the whole Hardcore vs Casual thing is so murky. Stuff gets thrown under the umbrella of those two terms that doesn't rightly belong there. Or maybe it does and the terms themselves don't have their supposed meaning.Lanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06835095269839169484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477169190731480241.post-40306627063444460512009-05-15T12:15:00.000+02:002009-05-15T12:15:00.000+02:00The Explorer hardcore player is indeed very hardco...The Explorer hardcore player is indeed very hardcore but he doesn't really have a hardcore vs casual conflict. It is just great players like this are there and nobody objects. So therefore I don't think he counts.<br /><br />Should there be something a killer hardcore vs casual classification? I actually think this falls under achievement hardcore. The ultimate killer is the ultimate achiever. Especially in his own eyes. Hmm, Bartle got it right again. There is no need for the fourth girl.Phedrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06563052105703506187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477169190731480241.post-48510661738860847132009-05-15T11:56:00.000+02:002009-05-15T11:56:00.000+02:00One very predominate player in any MMO is the kind...One very predominate player in any MMO is the kind of player that believes xp is everything. Anything that slows down his quest for more xp is stupid. This could either be other players that actually like to read a quest, or look at their surroundings. But it is also applies to game mechanics. This player is the opposite of old-skool hardcore. Everything needs to be dumbed down for optimal xp. Having to run 5 minutes to the next xp treasure is a waste of time. He has a real life, you know! He doesn't have 6 hours a day to waste like some other losers.<br /> <br />I am not sure in which category they fall, or whether they are even any kind of hardcore. But there are way too many of them, and they are probably the main reason I don't team up as much as I used to. I like to take my time to get sucked into the story/life of the game. If I am rushed through some cave I feel like the only thing I do is button smashing. Since I do want to experience the quests I got handed to me I often chose to do it alone (or with Lani) because that way I am actually playing a game in stead of being an extension of my keyboard. Is this Wendy vs Dorothy?Phedrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06563052105703506187noreply@blogger.com